Wednesday, July 8, 2015

Darren G. Davis Bluewater Productions: Interviewed

(Darren G. Davis is a person I met online via the world of PR and journalism.  I ran a website, he sent PR releases.  When I'd reply to his releases we'd have dialogues and, unlike with other publishers, he was real, and very honest.  I later saw him on FB as a "person you might know" as someone to Friend request.  While there we've become actual friends.  I like the hell out of him.)

Hi Darren, as readers of this interview might not be aware of all that you have done, could you tell us a bit of your background of education and what you did prior to entering the world of comics?

DGD: As a comic book fan growing up, I never thought or had goals of working in the comic book industry.  I collected as a kid but it was only a fun hobby.  I wanted to be a television media programmer – which sounds odd for a 10 year old kid to think.  My idol was Brandon Tartikoff who was the president of NBC (who I got to meet a bunch of times).  I grew up in an area in Southern California where they filmed everything from Dukes of Hazzard, Knight Rider, Wonder Woman to the Muppet Movie.  This is where I became obsessed with the industry because it was all around.  I would spend my afternoons talking to the people on sets while looking for autographs. I graduated from California State of Northridge when nobody ever thought I would.  I was not a very good student…ever.

While in my senior year of college, I ended up getting an internship at E! Entertainment Television and loving it.  They created a brand new position for me and I was on my way.  I was so green doing everything I was asked.  I do not think bringing tampons from one boss to another was on the job description, but I didn’t care I was in Hollywood!  After an amazing 6 years at E! (Before the Kardashians), I left to go to USA Networks, Sci-Fi Channel and Lionsgate. While at Lionsgate, I got recruited by WildStorm Productions to work with Jim Lee to head up their consumer development division. 

I was selling his (and all the other WildStorm artists) services outside of comics.  Illustration work on video game covers, concepts and dvd’s.  DC Comics took over a year later in which I stayed for another year.  I left to join Joe Madureira to head up his company Beyond Entertainment.  Joe was the top comic book artist at that point so I kept him very busy…too busy, that I had to hire on different artists to handle the workload like Randy Green, Adam Hughes, Andy Park.  I had over 10 of the top artists working with me on the custom work.

What was odd is that years before I was in line getting their autographs! From there I was watching all these creative people create properties.  I thought I would take a stab at it after learning a lot from these creators.  I started with 10th Muse at Image Comics which launched at the 6th highest selling comic book for the month.  After years at Image Comics I wanted to grow but Image wanted me to stay at three titles.  So I left Image and made a couple of bad choices until I ended up starting to self publish.  It was the best decision I ever made in publishing.  It has been 10 years now and we have over 1000 books in our catalog.

Ness: As someone who received your PR from Blue Water Productions, I got to know you a bit, and as a Facebook friend even more so.  I think you are a hoot.  Would you call yourself an extrovert?  How does that play into how your came to be a part of the world of comics?

DGD: I am probably more of an introvert that pretends he is an extrovert.  When it comes to my digital footprint, it is really hard for me to separate myself from my job.  I always stay pretty neutral in social media not talking about politics or other huge hot topics.  I do put semi-personal stuff up there in which I get constant calls from my father asking me why did I post that.  I am always aware of what I post and what I want it to accomplish.  Everything posted is for a reason and most of the time it is guarded.  People that know me personally get a better vantage point of the real me.  I do not think that Facebook is a well rounded visual of myself.  I am always conflicted on what to post and the perception of what I want the outside world to know.  It is only a piece of the true me.

Ness: I know that you've written comic books, and that you've created characters that have been featured at your publishing house Bluewater Productions, is that your end game, wanting to create works and having them be published?  Or are you hoping for movies, video games, and whatever else falls your way with them?

DGD: I have created about 80% of all the properties at Bluewater.  When I have created something, it is meant to be more of a brand rather than a “cool comic book” .  Comic books sales are in the toilet from what they were in the 90’s.  So you have to think outside the box.  I learned this early on, so you will see things like 10th Muse set in modern day.  It makes it way cheaper to make a modern day movie than a far off space thriller.  Some of the creations were made for animated series like Atlas.  I have had a couple things optioned for film, like Legend of Isis at Paramount.  That probably will not get made unless the name is changed.  I think calling a super hero movie called Isis in this day would not sell.   We do have a couple of toy deals that will be out later this year with Go Hero.   I like to create the worlds in my universe rather than writing a script.  I am a great storyteller and can an amazing story in comic book form – but I do struggle with dialogue.  I learned how to create and write comic books from Marv Wolfman (Teen Titans).  It is why I sometimes have passionate projects that I work on that I bring in a co-writer.  My favorite my brother Scott whom we wrote Wrath of the Titans and Dorian Gray together.  Those two series are up in the top of what I have published.  We compliment each others writing skills.

Ness: It would be important I think here to mention that you are an out gay male, and that you are also HIV positive.  I have to say, while I've known a number of the first category, I haven't known if I've known people of the second.  Yes, maybe I am naive or live in the American Midwest, or have other cultural blinders... for this question, we'll get further later, how do these play into your writing of comics, and how do they play into being a publisher of comics?  If the answers are different, why do you think they are?

DGD: I was working with Wizard Magazine at the time when I diagnosed with HIV.  After having a couple weeks of problems with the start of the medication, I told my boss in confidence.  I thought he should know that I was having some medical issues. Two days later I got fired. To this day I have never had any issue physically with HIV. I am 100% adherent and do what I am told by the doctor. I did write an award winning graphic novel on HV called “Lost Raven”. The book was half fiction and half non-fiction. It pretty much was my journal entrees taken word for word from what I was dealing with when first diagnosed.  Getting fired freaked me out because I did not want to be known as the AIDS guy in comic books (I have never had AIDS – but uniformed people think they are the same).  So I hid it from most of my work friends.  When I became a publisher I decided to say screw it and wrote out Lost Raven.  If someone can something good out of it from my experience, than it is worth it.  As for being gay, it is only one factor of who I am. There has been some homophobia in the comics world.  One artist told me “to get buttfucked and die of AIDS”.  He is working for DC Comics and Marvel to this day.  I still have the email but will never disclose who he is.

Ness: A few years back there were people or person, singular, who kept vandalizing your Wikipedia entry.  I know that I let you know at least twice and you had Wiki address it.

Do you think it was regarding them hating you for being gay, having HIV, or not liking you for being a publisher?  Are comics so parochial (having a limited or narrow outlook or scope) that you might suppose every publisher has an enemy somewhere, just because fanboys or fangirls are small minded?

DGD: I am hated for a number of reasons…..Lol!  Mostly it is because of what people assume to be the truth.   Because of social media, you have to put yourself out there.  It you do that then you are open season for getting shot!   I am getting a thicker skin but it still stings when people write things about you when it is false.  Once I started doing the biography comic books is when most of the hate started.  People did not think I deserved the attention I was getting from national press.  What people did not realize is my background is in getting national press.  I worked in entertainment for years as well as studied it in college.  My 1st series the 10th Muse was on Entertainment Tonight.  I have become a lot more closed off in recent years because of all the negative stuff.  I hate when people say nasty things as they hide behind a screen. Own it….  

Ness: So facing these obstacles of ignorance and hate, is doing your own work, at your own publishing company the best way to work in the industry? There are perhaps more ways than I am about to present but, it could be argued I think that you can change the system from within, as in working at one of the bigger companies, or doing what you do, publishing your work and being who you are.

DGD: I have worked for the bigger companies and am 100% truly happy doing this my way.  All my life I always wanted the security of the corporation but when I left DC Comics, it really did open my eyes.  I like having my own schedule to do what I want to do.  It does come with the downfall of doing interviews at 9:30PM rather than playing with my dogs.  But I do have the freedom to take them to the park at 11AM.   My ego sometimes think would anyone care or think that I made a difference in the world.  I would like to think that I did inspire some people.  I do try to be a good person and help out as many people as I can.  I do have my faults and quirks – but I don’t think I would change much at this point in my life….okay that is a lie…I just do not have any regrets.

Ness:  I appreciate your candor, and think you are someone who does more for the industry than just create reading material, because having works out there you are making a statement. I wonder if you feel it is worth it?

DGD:  Sometimes it is.  When I think about my career as a whole I think that I made a big difference.  This is on days when I reflect if it is worth it.  On a daily basis, it is mundane and I am in my own bubble.  So when I see something on a website that is being nasty, taking pot shots - it phases me.  I obsess about it (that is my kryptonite).  Sometimes making a statement comes with a lot of positive things… But they also come with hate.  So it is worth it if I can make a difference to kids… women, men, other comic creators, HIV positive people, people with major anxiety issues, guys with Australian Shepherds… Whomever.

Ness: What is the future of comics? That is a big question I know, so, answer if you will, in terms of the world of digital versus print, piracy, the changing demographics of readers, and the role of comics as the training grounds for major films?

DGD: Look at the simple fact that the numbers are nothing compared to what they were years ago.  Big films bring big licensing but not getting new readers.  Free Comic Book day that Diamond does brings in the same comic book fans that collect or people selling stuff on eBay.  But I give them props for trying something.  It will be a print to order world soon for the single issues. It will become a graphic novel world even more. Also digital is a huge factor now. Schools and libraries are starting to get into digital books. Kindle, iTunes, Nook and ComiXology are huge now.  Look at the DVD market as well.  A lot of the cartoons from Hanna Barbara at Warner Bros. will never see the shelves at Target.  They are now print on demand as well from their website.  I personally have read more novels on my iPad than I have read in print in years. 

As a kid I was a reluctant reader, which still affects me today.  I would never pick up a title like Gone With the Wind because of the shear size of it.  But on the Kindle, I did not care.  Its pretty cool and I recommended them to parents all the time. It is also funny that digital prices for comic books are pretty much the same as print comic books. I am fully guilty of this too – but it is the way of the world now.  I depend on digital more than print.

Ness: Has Bill Cosby ever offered you a drink and a drive home, and then did you wake up with jammies and him smiling in a robe?

DGD: There will not be a FAME: Bill Cosby comic book :)

Ness: Are you solely interested in the content you currently publish and profiles of public people, or will there perhaps be new genres or areas of story that Bluewater will enter?

DGD: I guess it would be politically correct to say that I am a fan of all the books that I have produced.  There are some stinkers out there.  I always like to try something new and sometimes that fails.  Also there are some subjects I can’t stand, but do them because I need to stay neutral for the company.  At the end of the day, I do not want anyone to know why likes or dislikes, especially in the political world.  I have been called out on these before and always stay neutral.  I am always open to ideas.  My agent told me to do a reality stars line called 15 Minutes and Diamond asked me to do a Charlie Sheen comic as the Infamous line. The biographies are fun to do because as a kid I read Teen Beat and watched MTV. Also it puts what I learned in the entertainment industry to use.  But I still value what I do in the fiction world.

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